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Users don't care about Cloudflare and I think you need to go outside.

Either you're in a bubble or you're an AI or both.


I’ve been getting rather annoyed by it personally. I’ve been running a VPN lately for some things and it’s constantly making me check a box before loading sites. Sometimes twice. Once it fell into a loop and I just gave up.

I does get in my way less when not going though a VPN.


Most users do not do this and therefore will never see this screen.

“Never” isn’t true, but they may not see it enough to reach a pain threshold.

> I think you need to go outside.

I am outside.

Should I try going inside?


"Man, you guys really need to get inside sometimes and touch Linoleum..."

There are plenty of "normies" on social media complaining about it, it's not just a developer bubble.

How would Mozilla replace the $500M a year from Google to not be a business?

Myself and I believe many others are willing to put money where our mouths are for an organization leading by example with regards to stewardship, much as this org has done in the past prior, instead of all these continued distractions, and ESPECIALLY if they stop swallowing this poisonous "donation" from Google. The fact that they do makes me wary of sending them a single penny. They'll just keep doing shit like they have been in recent years...

I can understand where you're coming from, but this seems a little misguided. Are you personally trying to pledge at least 1 full devs salary to Mozilla in exchange for less AI products? At the end of the day this really comes down to the money. If you want Mozilla to do the things you say you want from them, they need more than donations. Good will doesn't build a browser, that shit's expensive. It's like you're asking for a games studio to just give you an MMO out of the goodness of their heart for a few scraps from people who support their mission. The world doesn't work that way, without products like these I imagine Mozilla wouldn't be around much longer in the way you describe considering most of their salaries are paid directly by that 'poison' you describe.

The foundation never gets more than 10M / year in donations. You really think their donation rate could possibly go up by more than 50x just by cutting ties with Google?

When these vibe coded projects realise that maintenance, security updates, API changes are still needed. Get ready for a massive swing back to senior software developers being in demand.

Playing software maintainer while many vibe coded web apps aren't built with proper software architecture or practices only makes the swing back to senior engineers being in demand a possibility.

Good luck to those who are building 600K-LOC vibe coded web apps with 40+ APIs stitched together.


Honestly, "vibe-code-cleaners" are already out there and in demand!

I even expect "vibe-code-scalers" will come soon, to be able to fix and scale up the spaghetti AI agents plopped in the first place.

The author seems to be an Amazonian, it also seems that they are good at "Invent", but not at "Simplify" bit.

Big-Tech has invented LLMs, that is great. Big-Tech hasn't been great when it comes to "Simplify"-ing things. Actually, notoriously bad at it.

That is the opportunity here; "Simplifying" these workflows, making AaaS (Agent as a Service or AI as a Service)


> I stood on the street after my haircut and let sink in how big this was, how this technology has become an essential aide for so many, how I could lead performance efforts and help save the planet.

Brendan.

First of all congratulations on your new job. However,

It is easier to just say to everyone it is about the money, compensation and the stock options.

You're not joining a charity, or to save the planet, this company is about to unload on the public markets at an unfathomable $1TN valuation.

Don't insult your readers.


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Try lobsters and probably Reddit which have a hard stance against AI.

You're right in HN heading down the path in favouring slop, constant posts and startups about AI with now 'influencers' (simonw in particular) aggressively posting and shilling AI.

With the moderators knowing that these 'influencers' and their kind violate the HN guidelines every day by purposefully linking back to their site for farming backlinks.

It might as well be called AI news.


For most reddit posts you can generate some rage bait against an llm using an llm, this way you cut the middle man out. Most subreddits eat that up without a second thought.


Lobsters stance is anti-AI and cautious at best. But plenty of AI-related articles there.


I like that for all the LLM/agentic news spam they apply the tag "vibecoding" (derogatory)


And more importantly users can hide articles by tag.


Lobste.rs has a hard stance against AI? This can't be true. I browse the front page every so often & there seems to be a fair amount of overlap between it and HN. At least for the upvoted articles.


There isn't a hard stance against it but it's generally not well received IMO and importantly, lobsters is written by people who understand other people have different needs and they provide the option to filter out articles by tags, rather than relying on a concept of "you will see everything or you will see what the crowd deems worthy".


> I find it sad that a lot of foundational open-source software is created/maintained by trading/crypto/money laundering companies. But OTOH it's great that they at least contribute _something_ to the society!

React is unfortunately becoming more foundational than this project, and with it maintained by a company that was involved in the Rohingya genocide in Myanmar, the Cambridge Analytica scandal and so on.

This makes crypto / trading companies look like angels compared to what Facebook has done even though they made and open sourced React.

To that end, I don't see anything morally wrong with the former camp of companies supporting open source, (trading/crypto) since they didn't participate and amplify an actual genocide.


So this is what the best engineers in the world are working on then.

Great.


What makes you say this person is a best engineer?


AI generated slop is the future :(


Sad.

So much for an alternative to Google, everything has to converge to ads.


I'm so glad that Midjourney and Flux is making creativity accessible to everyone, I don't need to have a subscription to MJ anymore now that Flux is getting better.

Everybody can now be an artist and have creativity for free now.

What a time to be alive.


Creativity has always been accessible to everyone. Creativity is a concept which only requires imagination. Those ideas can take many forms, including writing, cooking, sewing, doing skateboard tricks… It doesn’t mean rearranging pixels on screen by vaguely describing something.


But now we get artists skills for free, so anyone can become an artists with AI.

This is a net positive for the world.


In the start of your career if you're young, most would lowball as a last resort, if you have a medium to large body of work in your portfolio, probably be honest.

Make sure to account / factor in for equipment, taxes, family, rent, etc in your cost estimates, as they say estimation in software is hard.

If you lowball, IMHO you're not being honest with yourself and you may not be motivated to do the job. It is also hard to negotiate higher if you keep lowballing estimates with your clients in the long run.


How do you factor in family, rent, etc.? Do you multiply everything by say 1.25? Or do you actually put these line items in your proposal?


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