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That would be amazing.

#1 seems like the worst possible dystopia. We should shoot for #2 and have #3 as a fallback. The Culture is the worst dystopia I am capable of imagining.

For me it's the advent of LLMs. AI is boring.

For me, AI made tech interesting again.

Another reason to criminally prosecute the AI industry.


It is non-obvious that adding an LLM to a web browser makes anything better for the web browser user.


I think you have to work real hard to cover your eyes to there being 100% no use, to regarding it as having no potential. Shame on anyone who is able to fool themselves into being so completely convinced.

If you are 99% against, that's at least some ability to judge reality. To have some ability to investigate & think. But you should be able to talk at least like you have some moorings, some connection with both sides of the discussion, imo, or you just aren't being serious.


The goal should not be to include something because there is a use case but because the use case so stunningly obvious that this should become part of what every browser must implement.

It is clear this can be done without being part of the standard as is shown by the fact that it is already done. So it has no place in the standard.


How can this be done without a standard? By having a user download a couple GB model for every site they visit, and using webgpu (until/if web-nn ships)?

This doesn't make any sense. And it's far less ideal than using already on device models, that are better tailored to the device's hardware, and that may be already resident.

Good things should be made broadly available. We didn't need jquery before it came along, we could just do the things. But jQuery set a standard. And in turn much of what it did got sent into improvements to query selector. Your model of standardize only the minimum sounds like suicide for the web and I think it's dreadful, and I'm glad such dour sad views have no standing.


I do not want text generation in the web API at all.


I firmly believe AI is a surefire path to UBI. It's made me radically anti-AI.


I haven't seen anyone be against UBI given it's feasible. Why do you have this opinion?


This is probably going to sound alien. Socialism is ontologically evil. Regardless of outcome or positive it produces there is a moral obligation to stop the state from doing something like UBI.


I'm not an AI booster at all but democratizing a bleeding edge tech is the worst of all worlds.


This seems like the sanest solution.


I don’t get all of what’s going on but from the outside it seems like the xLibre guys got a lot of negative attention for doing that.


If you don't know what's going on, why comment?

A guy decided that after getting all his patches rejected because they cause tests to fail, doesn't compile, etc. that the problem is everyone else and decided to fork XOrg.

He then announced that the problem wasn't his code that didn't compile but DEI so based the entire forking around being a political conservative.

Everything I've seen written by him shows him to be insufferable, thats where the negative attention comes from.


There are a lot of distros that have xlibre packages for something that ostensibly doesn't compile.

I wouldn't trust the reason given by the people who have said that they're trying to kill Xorg for why they're rejecting patches from someone trying to improve Xorg


> There are a lot of distros that have xlibre packages for something that ostensibly doesn't compile.

No one says xlibre doesn't compile, but good attempt at a distraction. Have you considered invading a country as an alternative way to distract from terrible views?


> No one says xlibre doesn't compile

>> A guy decided that after getting all his patches rejected because they cause tests to fail, doesn't compile, etc. that the problem is everyone else and decided to fork XOrg.

Emphasis mine, words yours.


Yeah, some submitted patches failed to compile. Others compiled and failed tests.

Not the same as XLibre doesn't compile.


Wow here it shows who's politically motivated and like it or not Xlibre probably felt the same way. Some people cannot sleep or chill if it is not theirs world view.


"... generic human experiment ... creates a new humanoid race ... toxic spike protein ..." - Enrico Weigelt on LKML

"... insane and technically incorrect ... idiotic lies ... you don't know what you are talking about ... SHUT THE HELL UP ..." - Linus Torvalds

https://lkml.org/lkml/2021/6/10/957

It's not just his code.

The COVID conspiracy theories Enrico Weigelt pushes are riddled with bugs, logical errors, and security holes, and don't compile or pass tests either.

Linus already reviewed both the code and the reasoning, and rejected them for failing basic correctness.


This is indeed not at all about his code. I don't care what he thinks of vaccines and COVID - I just as much don't care what Linus Torvalds thinks about these things. They are damn programmers. Their business is to ship reliable, usable, secure software.


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