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It's a good thing we're ruining the climate so that we can also erode job quality and social interactions.

I can only hope aerospace and medical industries are raising strict constraints against this slop otherwise I fear for the future. Eroding engineering AND communication? Thats a good formula for success


It's at this point you have zero empathy for someone and just shame them personally and report to some higher up.

I can (very marginally) understand running the argument over an LLM if you've difficulties communicating in the language, but never copy paste


I'm on the same boat I'd rather be left behind than play this stupid game.

It's specially hurtful to see open source developers and projects using and supporting the tools of companies which blatantly stole their work - and now profit from it - and that are actively against the open source ideals (Anthropic when trying to close github repos with their code)

I've stopped all my monetary support for open source projects, and moved all my code to a self hosted instance.

I'm not against AI tools I see where they can be useful, I'm just morally opposed to and disgusted of the ways these companies work.


> These checks are part of how we protect our first-party products from abuse like bots, scraping,

Do you guys see the irony here?


They obviously get it. They just do not care.


What a sad and egotistical thing to say.


That ship has sailed. These models were trained unethically on stollen data, they pollute tremendously and are causing a bubble that is hurting people.

"Responsible" and "Ethic" are faaar gone.


Good someone is taking a stance against slopware


It's so bizarre I see everyone happy using llms trained unethically, so they stop doing the only creative and interesting part of the whole SDLC and just become managers


There is no strong argument that they were "trained unethically". You can google or ask an LLM to argue pro/con that claim... but of course, you haven't, since doing so would itself violate your apparent worldview.

> so they stop doing the only creative and interesting part of the whole SDLC and just become managers

Bullshit (and, speaking as an old, incredibly whiny). Figuring out the right way to talk to yet another API is not the "creative and interesting part." Coming up with entirely new concepts and building them faster than I ever thought possible given that I have zero time to myself since I have a kid is literally the most "creative and interesting" thing I've experienced in my entire life. /shrug

I don't know what to say to folks like you anymore other than "byeeeeee, got too many ideas I can build now to waste time arguing with people who are simply not getting it... and maybe never got it in the first place because they got pushed into STEM instead of being cursed from the gods with it like I definitely did"


There is plenty of proof on how these models were trained, you're just too enamored with your "more code, move faster" button to care.

That's fine no one's perfect we all look away from some things here and there, me included. But don't throw shade


The astro turfing is strong in this whole thread

I am a London housewife of the industrial times and Claude has re ignited my love for programming. My steam machines are pumping again hapilly


what do you mean by "the industrial times"?


Let me ask Claude


great. keep me updated


All I see here is a bunch of people cheering for, allegedly, stolen content


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