Is it really worth mentioning that? I don't see how "What about US atrocities?" is relevant here. At best it's a distraction, at worst you're implying that we shouldn't talk about China because the US is bad too.
Lower than all of the deaths caused by Mao? Really?
Also, if intent is the greatest predictor of future deaths (as opposed to just tallying past deaths), a chronically tyrannical regime looks way worse than a democracy's bungled retributive invasion.
The majority of western accounts of great Chinese famine come from the book "Hungry Ghosts" which provides almost zero actual evidence of the event other than sensationalized accounts.
If you actually look for the sources of data and don't just blindly believe the western propaganda pieces repeating the same figures, this will become pretty obvious.
I'm not suggesting that there wasn't trouble, death, and suffering during this period but I'd take the multi million death counts generously extrapolated from incomplete with a bolder of salt.
What does this have to do with the article or imglorp's post? How is this relevant to the discussion at all? What are you trying to say? I don't understand why you are bringing this up. Would you please explain it?
It's relevant by showing that the problems pointed out by imglorp, while real, tend to happen in every country of that size, and selectively using them to condemn a country is silly - especially so when done by a state that's objectively much worse in that regard; also note that while most of those problems in China happened in a distant past, in US they are recent (Middle East) or current (imprisoning people without proving them guilty or police shooting random people with no consequences).
