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I would love to use these... but they suck. They don't even come close to what OpenAI offers.


I think most of HN has only tried ChatGPT with GPT-3.5 in December 2022 when the OpenAI servers were getting hammered. That is why they're impressed by these slow and low quality local models and mistakenly think they're on par with OpenAI's offerings.

Honestly even reddit and teenagers on TikTok have a more accurate view on OpenAI vs. local LLMs than HN.


There’s not a single thing out there that even comes close to GPT-4. Not one that I’ve used anyway. Benchmarks be damned, it’s the experience that matters and I’ve yet to have an LLM blow my mind the way GPT-4 does.


Have you used Claude? I regularly use them instead of GPT4 because of the larger context window. 4 is still useful when I want to give instructions to the system (Claude will refuse to do a lot), but generally the responses seem on par with each other.




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