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Surely HN must now be next?

The cobbler's children have gone unshod so long!



Every time a community I'm part of goes and redesigns their site it sucks hard. Really hard. Please Paul, do not listen to the designgeneers on here. This place is just fine the way it is!


>This place is just fine the way it is!

Can we at least compromise on unicode vote arrows?


Case in point: Slashdot.


Dear God, HN has neither a doctype nor a tableless layout... D:


Yet somehow it just works. Why waste your time on idiomatic CSS when good old tables work just fine?


Accessibility, bandwidth savings, maintainability, semantic markup, visual consistency, support for more complex layouts, and removing the need for ugly hacks—remember spacer gifs?


Except... the site works fine like it is. And it's not a mass consumer site. It's mostly for techies/geeks. And it's not PG's core business. YC is.

Believe me, I have at least a few upgrades I wish were made here (fixing that "the link does not exist" bug, and making commenting/editing more friendly like Reddit), but they are not a big deal, we'll survive.


Hey. Don’t ruin my broad oversimplifications by adding reasonable context.


sorry :)


Because tables are a pain in the ass and CSS is not


Haha I remember when it was the other way around...


Tables have always been a pain in the arse.




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