What does the fact that I can pay with Bitcoin in a very narrow selection of web shops have to do with the vast network of debit and credit card systems that I can pay with anywhere I want (web and brick-and-mortar) without any effort whatsoever? The suggestion that cryptocurrencies are competition to MasterCard's and Visa's duopoly is ridiculous. Cryptocurrencies, due to their intrinsic online nature, are a very limited payment solution.
Note that I do support cryptocurrency efforts, use them, and follow the news with interest. But cryptocurrencies are not even close to mainstream enough to have this duopoly worried.
Every Bitcoin-derived cryptocurrency has to keep in sync with the blockchain in order to participate in payments. That is what I mean with "online in nature".
Ok now I got what you meant. thanks for the explanation.
Having said that your consideration about "on line nature" applies also to my mastercard in almost all the shops I usually buy stuff be it on line or off line. Without me providing the OTP and the payment processor verifying it I can't buy anything.
A little bit OT but worthy IMHO. There are quite a few SPV (1) client implementations that remove the need to have all the blockchain stored locally. The things are moving even further in these field with the implementation of the payment protocol (2)
As if cards are not "online in nature"? Bitcoin is, by the way, much ahead of cards in that regard. You can have bitcoin radio and have PoS (coffee machine, ticket machine, shop's PoS) that does not have Internet connectivity for months.
Is there a way to practically keep in sync with the blockchain on a battery constrained device? Because at the moment, I don't think you can make the equivalent of a debit card for bitcoin. Even a mobile app would be impractical with it keeping in sync with the blockchain on battery.
Debit cards are only online in the sense that the shop must provide a connection to a trusted third party, which is a far easier problem to solve. The cryptocurrency equivalent would be to present the blockchain on the spot; if that's not insecure it is at best very unpractical.
You don't need the entire blockchain on your phone. To answer the question:
> practically keep in sync on a battery constrained device
Simply don't, and have it be an app for blockchain.info (ie, someone else hosts the wallet and sends the money) or for your own personal wallet (that you have hosted somewhere).
But in practice, all you need to initiate a bitcoin transaction is the signing key of your address and someone to send your transaction to in the swarm. You never need the blockchain itself to do anything - if you forge illegal transactions where you say "give 50 bitcoin to X, but I only have 5" the chain will disregard it as false. You don't have to know your own balance to do that. And you don't need the blockchain to know your own balance - plenty of web services provide APIs to query the balance in a wallet.
And common retail works just fine here. The store is an entry point into the blockchain, and it is in their interest to provide a valid entry point to submit transactions through. They can't modify your transaction because they don't have your private signing key to authorize it, but if they don't broadcast it and have it confirmed in the swarm they can't get paid. It doesn't get quite as simple as "swipe a card" because you need some transistors that construct a valid transaction that requires your private signing key, thus you can't use a public terminal to generate it. But it doesn't need to be complex, have internet access, or have a complete blockchain to work.
There are practical Bitcoin wallets for Android phones. I use one on every day basis. It does not have a copy of blockchain because I don't need one to be able to use Bitcoin.
You're right, but for the wrong reason. Crypto currencies are a canary highlighting general anxiety over the fiat currency model that has served us for many years.
End of the day, the irresponsibility associated with currency management and the harsh controls over capital at the individual/small business level are what fuels demand for bitcoin.
Note that I do support cryptocurrency efforts, use them, and follow the news with interest. But cryptocurrencies are not even close to mainstream enough to have this duopoly worried.